tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14910575.post1586965365845720164..comments2023-10-04T11:35:50.986-04:00Comments on Out of the Jungle: Vendor Neutral Citation is getting some tractionJames Milleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07368391001719650329noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14910575.post-48553042395485273442012-02-13T20:27:05.405-05:002012-02-13T20:27:05.405-05:00This is extermely relevant in light of the ABA'...This is extermely relevant in light of the ABA's endorsement of the UEMA.Schmessershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16462882150327913999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14910575.post-864862780228008082011-03-07T15:44:42.595-05:002011-03-07T15:44:42.595-05:00Whoops--looks like I signed that comment from my p...Whoops--looks like I signed that comment from my personal blog. <br /><br />In case it's not clear, it's Courtney at Justia. Thanks!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12368550617414579133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14910575.post-35428883135984221182011-03-07T15:43:13.367-05:002011-03-07T15:43:13.367-05:00Great post, Betsy. I'm glad you saw and shared...Great post, Betsy. I'm glad you saw and shared it--I think this is an issue that often gets overlooked, mostly because in states like CA (where I am), we don't have this system, we don't generally cite outside our states, and we're not aware of it. I am happy that its getting some traction, at least online. <br /><br />For me, it seems a no-brainer: courts just insert paragraph numbers and use a standard citation format when they write the opinion. Then the opinion is instantly citable. It is, in a base form, self-publishing. <br /><br />It seems like courts are worried about overhead, increased work, etc. I'm guessing that some rely on Wexis to double-check the opinion, and I wonder if they might be afraid to let go of that extra editorial check. As for Posner, I was pretty surprised to see that he was initially opposed to this. Perhaps he's changed his mind since. I need to look into that. <br /><br />Also, thanks to Marie for posting a link to the Peter Martin article, which does a fantastic job of explaining the history and challenges of this movement to v/n cites.Clonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14039049192530856305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14910575.post-83017423030441586882011-03-03T13:34:38.389-05:002011-03-03T13:34:38.389-05:00Thanks for this good roundup, Betsy. I'm goin...Thanks for this good roundup, Betsy. I'm going to introduce my Advanced Legal Research class to vendor/medium-neutral citation tonight, and will be glad to have so many good resources pulled together. In addition to the sources you mention, Professor Peter Martin touches on the issue in "Abandoning Law Reports for Official Digital Case Law," which is available at http://ssrn.com/abstract=1743756 at p. 29-31. Professor Martin discusses the decision of the state of Arkansas to cease the publication of print reporters and adopt an official digital repository; unfortunately, Arkansas did not take the next logical step and add paragraph designations to cases for citation purposes. According to Professor Martin, this decision "reflects the continuing grip of print practices and runs against the collective judgment of those advocating neutral citation that paragraph numbers are a better choice" [than page numbers].Marie S. Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01526344204731209021noreply@blogger.com